…and then they came for the trans* people.

Operation Zeus in August last year marked the start of an ugly reminder of a European past that we thought we had long buried.  Nearly 60 years after the end of the Second European War, migrants were round up from the streets of Greece and shoved unceremoniously into internment camps.  In May, women working in the sex industry were pulled from the streets, forcibly tested for HIV, publicly humiliated and imprisoned.  In March, they rounded up drug users from the streets of Athens and put them too into camps.  Last month in Thessaloniki they came for trans gender people.

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On the 30th of May, the Greek authorities stepped up their cleansing of the streets of the undesirables.  The daily checks of papers, papers, papers whenever someone non-white encounters a police officer sees numerous migrants hauled to police stations, and many imprisoned in one of the hellholes that pass for the detention camps of Greece.  In April alone 10, 000 people were stopped in these checks, and there are currently 5, 000 languishing in the official camps with an unknown number in temporary facilities such as police cells and shipping containers.  Last month Dendias announced a doubling of the capacity of these camps, although with no commitment to closing the alternative facilities.

Greek citizens, drugs users, homeless people and women working in the sex industry, have also been targeted under these sweeps where they are hauled to police stations, forcibly tested for HIV and in some cases imprisoned among with the migrants in the internment camps.  As the graffiti is cleaned off the shop facades in anticipation of the summer tourist influx, the streets are being cleansed of undesirables.

On the 30th of May, a new group of undesirables was identified.  Trans gender people. For the last week, daily raids have been taking place in Thessaloniki, Greece’s second largest city.  Under the pretense that of checking that the person is not involved in the sex industry trans people are being rounding up and arrested.  Their details are taken and they are detained for several hours.  On release they are warned that if they did not “return to normal” they would be arrested for public indecency.

This is not the first time that trans people have been targeted in Greece, in August last year, 25 trans women were arrested and force to undergo HIV testing and charged with prostitution offenses, in April, finally, the last of this group was acquitted.  This is however a new and sustained campaign against trans people, some of whom were stopped driving their cars and accused of sexual impropriety.

In May, the official broadcast to publicise Athens Pride was banned as it included a lesbian kiss, while in Thessaloniki, the  Metropolitan of the Greek Orthodox Church described Pride as an “unholy and unnatural event”, urging citizens not to take their children and indicating that he would like to see the event shut down.  At the end of last year gay men were repeated assaulted by member of the Golden Dawn, sometimes armed with knifes, in the wake of the violent and vicious rabble that saw the opening of the play “Corpus Christi” besieged by Nazis.  One MP from the fascist Golden Dawn attacked a journalist, punching him in the face and screeching after him as he escaped “You run away you faggot, you ass-muncher“, while the police silently watched.

This new escalation follows a familiar pattern of harassment, false imprisonment, detention, and arrests.  The experiences of migrants, drug users and women in the sex industry are all testimony to the deliberate targeting of marginalised groupings.   The pink triangle isn’t just a cool emblem, but a reminder that we’ve seen it all before.  We said never again – only it IS happening again….and one-by-one the people who may have spoken up disappear.

Update on the Situation of the Trans women of Thessaloniki

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chefnaddina
chefnaddina

I think it's more dark and sinister like the way the Missionaries paved the Way for Colonization and Genocide both catholic and protestant ! They may be using a test to hide the fact that they are doing this all around the World not just in Greece! In America they are doing this to Homeless and more it is the Micro Chip this is what they are now doing! Started this in Miami Fl

chefnaddina
chefnaddina

Here is your answer  (Greek Orthodox Church)

When I see something like this happen I look for the Why and EVERY time is has something to do with Christian Religion! Such a Demonic religion the World must be educated and cleansed from this Hate Extremist Christian religion is one if the reason's the World will never have peace! The others are Extremist Islamic and Extremist Jewish! 

Charge them for crimes against Humanity it's Godless to persecute people who are not in your religion or what you expect them to be!

guest3346
guest3346

It would be great if the gays and lesbians were rounded up as well, after all they think of themselves as unstoppable at forcing their own illicit lifestyles on Christians and straights, this should happen in America as drugs AND the ones giving it to children are at an all time high, and as Alicat12 said round up the sex users as well the politicians the police and the judges who also use the prostitutes then maybe things will change for the good.

ColettaHughes
ColettaHughes

I say to you as surely as the sun will rise tomorrow... Those of you who would do harm to another because you disagree with them or their lifestyle are playing God. Jesus said "shake the dust from your sandals", not burn their village to the ground while cursing their tears. Take the 2 x 4 out of your own eye so that you may better see to remove your brothers splinter. To those who can not forgive with hearts that burn with hate. What is it that you are doing to see the kingdom of God? Have you fed the sick? When was the last time you took in a widow? Do you put a coin in the hand of the drunken beggar or do you curse them with your rath? Read the bible... Jesus didn't seek to hang out with the clean and wealthy.... He chose those you hate. Let those of you without sin cast the first stone.


Blessings and love to all of you. Regardless of how much you hate me just for being a transsexual, a beggar, a hooker, or anything you just can't bare to look at without busting your tiny and special bubble.  

DarrenGregory
DarrenGregory

This just came my way today: Is this still happening in Greece?  Or, not?  If it is: we have some work to do!  Enough is enough!

DarrenGregory
DarrenGregory

There are some people missing who God is: I'm not entering this debate: but, the spiritual abuse suffered to make anyone believe that God stands for purity as dictated by man?  I'm sorry: this is mental illness at it's highest level of psychopathy!

ElisabethLiora
ElisabethLiora

God's cleansing will reign supreme. You are either with God, or against Him.  You are either a child of God or a child of the devil.  It is YOUR choice.  The consequences will depend on said choice.  I side with God.  Righteousness.  And Purity.

cogdisastrA
cogdisastrA

Kosmogrrrl Baronesa1980 This is making my blood boil OMG.

NitaEll
NitaEll

God's cleansing will reign supreme. You are either with God, or against Him.  You are either a child of God or a child of the devil.  It is YOUR choice.  The consequences will depend on said choice.  I side with God.  Righteousness.  And Purity. 

NitaEll
NitaEll

God's cleansing will reign supreme. You are either with God, or against Him.  You are either a child of God or a child of the devil.  It is YOUR choice.  The consequences will depend on said choice.  I side with God.  Righteousness.  And Purity.

backwards
backwards

Hey! 

When a person if they are living a private life that does not hurt people and you know what I mean when we say this, does nothing wrong. 

"We know there are many issues that do not need as much attention" but "Just to avoid the real problems it becomes even more apocolyptic in nature". 

Am not a writer of a novel or a Oscar winner for being best movie star of the year but you know what I do unserstand your freedom to live whatever is a normal life is to a person who does this by their own free will are at risk. Am not refering to oh let me give away a free "gas" car every now and then to people. This is ridicoulus hard to get it into my mind that those do not see anything wrong with that. Am amazed at those kind of thinking and behaviour. Anyways. Just to mention this while we are talking about what!

When people who have all money and elected power continues to get in vehicles of mass destruction everytime they need to get around is harming all walks of life knowingly.

Where all is affected by people doing this activity. Oh I guess it's so big of a can of worms, you or another will say twidle thumbs and give a blank stare at the wall, sky and in the eyes... 

So what is the penalty for breaking the protocols of nature as in destroying its fabric?

backwards
backwards

Hey!  When a person if they are living a private life that does not hurt people and you know what I mean when we say this, does nothing wrong.  "We know there are many issues that do not need as much attention" but "Just to avoid the real problems it becomes even more apocolyptic in nature".  Am not a writer of a novel or a Oscar winner for being best movie star of the year but you know what I do unserstand your freedom to live whatever is a normal life is to a person who does this by their own free will are at risk. Am not refering to oh let me give away a free "gas" car every now and then to people. This is ridicoulus hard to get it into my mind that those do not see anything wrong with that. Am amazed at those kind of thinking and behaviour. Anyways. Just to mention this while we are talking about what! When people who have all money and elected power continues to get in vehicles of mass destruction everytime they need to get around is harming all walks of life knowingly. Where all is affected by people doing this activity. Oh I guess it's so big of a can of worms, you or another will say twidle thumbs and give a blank stare at the wall, sky and in the eyes...  So what is the penalty for breaking the protocols of nature as in destroying its fabric?

A_Manifesto
A_Manifesto

Based on a number of comments that make references to our ancient forefathers kindly take the following under advisement. 

Please do not talk about our glorious ancestors like you know a single thing about them. You do not know their beliefs of human rights, their value system , their sexual preferences. their political beliefs, their culture and some documentaries and a couple of articles here and there most certainly do not give you the right to spew opinion over a 10.000yr old people. 

It is true that homosexuality was not at the forefront and as such was not reason enough for a which hunt to be performed against homosexuals at the time only because sexuality and sexual preference was never the main focus point of any person's life. They did not spend hald their life writing ,discussing ,commenting ,debating and philosophizing on gender and cross gender and sexual preferences. They preferred important matters such as geopolitics, the nature of humans , psychology, physics, biology, history, ethics, law etc. But not who screws who and why.
Of course heavy penalties did exist that in sometimes reached the extend of death penalties for homosexual acts (usually in public). Please do not confuse the discussion of male beauty by other men with open homosexual behavior. It was considered discussion about the art of nature and the science of beauty. Now if the person discussing this matter then took the subject of his attention to a bedroom and had relations with him this was a matter completely up to the two of them and they would then not go into the streets protesting their right to do what they had just finished doing. That little protest would mean banishment or death. 
Greeks were nationalist , far more than the Nazi's who "borrowed" our Swastika and dug half around the Mediterranean trying to prove that we were related. They were racists in the pure form of the term. They believed that there are differences between races and cultures something that should be historically documented to track changes.  They called EEEEEEveryone a barbarian but thought worst of Greeks behaving like barbarians. 

We were and still are a warlike people. Socrates, Plato , Aristotle all fought in wars. All carried battle scars. They gave oaths requiring their young men to return to their children better states with expanded borders. They allowed defeated foes (mostly other Greeks) to be enslaved.  
They pitied barbarians and did not fight wars to "educate" them. If they were educated it happened because they came into contact with the most advanced civilization on the planet. 

Please Leave our glorious ancestors to rest and talk all you want about Greece today even though you know NOTHING about it either despite the 250+ comments. You mix geography with ideology , religion , law and stupid quotes without having the simplest iota of comprehension of any of those matters. Most of you are so focused on your sexuality, becoming "accepted" for who you sleep with at night, that you neglect the truly important things in life. This is why our ancient fathers DID NOT focus on homosexuals for the plain reason that it was not an important subject to begin with. 

chefnaddina
chefnaddina

@guest3346  Christian religion is Godless so all this hate is the reason why. 

Only the original source to all World religions will bring the World to Loving peace the Science of the Vedas they are not a Religion. There's no such religion as Hindu this was a a name given by the ignorance of English Protestant and Catholic Missionaries who corrupted and paved the way for Colonization and Genocide around the World! If you ask me only Demoniacs should be rounded up that would mean you guest3346!

chefnaddina
chefnaddina

@ColettaHughes  Emperor Constantine of Rome manipulated the writings in the Bible they are fragmented and incomplete. You can find complete answers to life's Questions such as Science of the Soul/Atma,Anti Material and Material Worlds,Aruvedic medicine,Vastu Architectural Science and much more in the Vedas!


It is not Hindu religion there is no such religion this was a name given by the Missionaries who corrupted,had their own Culture and Science! Missionaries paved the way for Colonization and Genocide around the World!


 If you also read the life of Krsna you will find the original source to Pagan Pan and The made up story of the Jesus!

I spent years reading World religions then found the Science of the Vedas and now know this is the Original source to all in the World! No reason for Wars because all came from the same Science of the Vedas. Five Hundred years a man who was Islamic a Scholar taught the Science of the Vedas the Indians and Muslims wanted to and even tried to attack and kill him because he would not choose a side because any religion can chant the holy name of God because the Vedas are the source to all! This mans name was Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu! The Vedas were then brought to the Ignorant West by a man named AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada to educate anyone from any religion can study the Science of the Vedas to become self realized Soul/Atma and Loving devotions are the only way to the heavenly planes Hate is not the path! So Christians,Islamics,Jewish who are Hateful will not make it to the Heavenly plane of existence in the Spiritual World! The made up story of jesus is very misleading one to continuous Sin!

chefnaddina
chefnaddina

@ColettaHughes  When I see something like this happen I look for the Why and EVERY time is has something to do with Christian Religion! Such a Demonic religion because it is fragmented and missing Doctrine like all World religions they should go back to the Original source to all the Vedas which are not a religion but a true science!Of nature of Anti Material World  the material World and the human Soul!

A_Manifesto
A_Manifesto

@ColettaHughes  eeeerm. Lady i know that perhaps you are quoting (or misquoting since the bible has been poorly translated) parts that seem to fit your ideal perception of the world but allow me though not very religious to use the bible in reverse. 


Was it not Jesus who saidRender to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. In other words follow both the laws of man and God. 


Therefore if someone trespasses into my land and for example my LAW says he is to be taken to a detention camp then he should know that as i good Christian which is what you are requesting us to be i will follow the law of man and imprison him. 


Do not confuse religion into matters that have little relevance with it especially when Religion itself contradicts the manner with which you are trying to manipulate its teachings. 


Note: We do not beat, arrest, harass transexuals for walking in the street. This according to your own saying would be quite unchristian. But if the law says that a transexual (just like heterosexual) prostitute needs to be medically examined he or she would need to obey the law of man and present him/herself to the medical examiners without the police having to go through the trouble of tracking them down and bringing them forcefully. 


The greatest "invention" of my forefathers was logic. I kindly request you utilize that when you read my comment. 

chefnaddina
chefnaddina

@DarrenGregory  When I see something like this happen I look for the Why and EVERY time is has something to do with Christian Religion! Such a Demonic religion Cleanse this, Love and compassion for human souls will return!

chefnaddina
chefnaddina

@ElisabethLiora  I look for the Why and EVERY time has something to do with Christian Religion! Such a Demonic religion it has nothing to do with God,it was fabricated manipulated by Emperor Constantine of Rome all the World religions are fragmented making them Demonic. You are siding not with God but a much darker energy! American Indians,Canada's first People,The Burning times,Rape of Woman and Children,Genocide all around the World It is DEMONIAC! All the World religions need to find their missing parts and parcels from the original source!

That original source are the Science of the Vedas! Millions of years old,and had to be written because all technology was lost five thousand years ago! When Kali Yuga started we still have 427,000. yr's to go but during this time we now are entering the Golden Age! The Shift in the human Consciousness must happen and then World Peace what is holding it back is the Demoniac World religions they must all come together and find the Truth. No free pass to Heaven no jesus this was fabricated by Constantine of Rome! it was a story quite similar  but not a man called jesus it was Krsna he was God in the flesh who brought consciousness to the World when the degradation started from Kali Yuga! It is only through loving Humble devotion for God that will get one into the Heavenly plane! Every Soul has their own Spiritual path, no one religion should place it's laws upon anyone because it is incomplete so therefor demonic. Only the Vedas as to true knowledge of the Anti Material World and the material World and the Science of the Soul/Atma! The only cleaning we need in the World is dark demonic hate energy this is what is GODLESS!

shekissesfrogs
shekissesfrogs

Hey, Ms. Self Righteous @ElisabethLiora, do you  know the commandment about not taking God's name in vain? yeah, that one. It's been poorly translated but no one thinks about what it means, in fact most of the bible just shuts people's brains off. 


It means this: Don't be so vain as to think you know what God's plan is, or what His or Her side is ..yeah, I said Her. When the bible talks about Trees in the Temple that is who they are referring to.  She was censored out of the bible. The Queen of Heaven. You can be on God's side, or Jesus' side. He's not on your side, you arrogant jerk.  He didn't pick on prostitutes, or learned who women who didn't adhere to backward traditions. That was revived too, by Timothy. So what are you doing speaking in public if you are on the side of the old testament? Pick a side. 

minniemouse2014
minniemouse2014

@ElisabethLiora  lady, are you for real?  The Taliban who killed and tortured thousands of people would share your sentiments!!  All of us human beings are a mix of good and evil. No one is absolutely pure or absolutely evil. But if I were to define the difference between good and evil it is this: good is a force for uniting people, for tolerance and transcending differences, and evil is a force that divides people, and encourages discrimination.  We are at a crossroads where we can either choose discrimination, hate and war or unity, tolerance, and peace.  If Jesus were here today I would lay all the money I have on which path that He would choose!


Kosmogrrrl
Kosmogrrrl

cogdisastrA Baronesa1980 (I should note that trans activists were heavily involved in EU sending people - think Natasha Kennedy did lots)

Kosmogrrrl
Kosmogrrrl

cogdisastrA Baronesa1980 I just wonder though - the compulsory HIV testing, the telling to detransition - how many TERFs wld be in favour?

Kosmogrrrl
Kosmogrrrl

cogdisastrA Baronesa1980 It stopped after EU sent a delegation. Camps didn't, but crackdown on Golden Dawn happened few months after.

Annamaria
Annamaria

@NitaEll This is not a cleansing by God. This is just hateful people hurting other people, because they are angry and scared. It is a CHOICE to hurt people, don't dirty God's name by blaming him for their actions.

Normal guy
Normal guy

@NitaEll I don´t like to choose between two made up things! I don´t believe in fairy tales or in God or the Devil.
So why don´t you kill yourself and let other people be...! 

jess90069
jess90069

@NitaEll @NitaEli your comments are IGNORANT  "God's cleansing will reign supreme. You are either with God, or against Him.  You are either a child of God or a child of the devil.  It is YOUR choice.  The consequences will depend on said choice.  I side with God.  Righteousness.  And Purity.  I do not know what "religion" you practice, but you are severely IGNORANT.  No Where in the Old Testament or New is they anything about "God's cleansing".  You are apparently a NAZI!  I sincerely hope you find yourself with a GLBT child, sibling, or other close person in your life and you have to eat your words.  I suspect you CLAIM to be a Christian, and trust me, YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN.  You are a most repugnant person.  If you do not like GLBT people that is fine, because I am sure they do not like you either.  You are MEAN, HATEFUL, AND IGNORANT.  You are severely ill-informed. If you go to a Christian Church, you need to find a new one, because they are teaching HATE,  God is all about LOVE. Compassion. and Understanding. NOT HATE!     

Annamaria
Annamaria

NitaEll This is not a cleansing by God. This is just hateful people hurting other people, because they are angry and scared. It is a CHOICE to hurt people, don't dirty God's name by blaming him for their actions.

Normal guy
Normal guy

NitaEll I don´t like to choose between two made up things! I don´t believe in fairy tales or in God or the Devil. So why don´t you kill yourself and let other people be...!

jess90069
jess90069

NitaEll @NitaEli your comments are IGNORANT  "God's cleansing will reign supreme. You are either with God, or against Him.  You are either a child of God or a child of the devil.  It is YOUR choice.  The consequences will depend on said choice.  I side with God.  Righteousness.  And Purity.  I do not know what "religion" you practice, but you are severely IGNORANT.  No Where in the Old Testament or New is they anything about "God's cleansing".  You are apparently a NAZI!  I sincerely hope you find yourself with a GLBT child, sibling, or other close person in your life and you have to eat your words.  I suspect you CLAIM to be a Christian, and trust me, YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN.  You are a most repugnant person.  If you do not like GLBT people that is fine, because I am sure they do not like you either.  You are MEAN, HATEFUL, AND IGNORANT.  You are severely ill-informed. If you go to a Christian Church, you need to find a new one, because they are teaching HATE,  God is all about LOVE. Compassion. and Understanding. NOT HATE!

chefnaddina
chefnaddina

@backwards  All souls are in the bodily dress this is temporary and should not identify with the body.its just transportation for the Soul. 

But each individual Soul has its own karma spiritual path!

No Other soul should push their own personal religious views upon another,that is demonic. 

For each soul to learn grow.It's personal grown for that soul alone! 

But when Souls harm,kill hate and persecute others souls it is Godless and demonic it is pure evil!

JohnKavanagh
JohnKavanagh

@A_Manifesto I feel strongly compelled to write to you in condemnation of much of what you have said-  The issue, though, is that I cannot for the life of me get my head round what you are ranting about.

StantonFink
StantonFink

@A_Manifesto If you want Modern Greece's legacy to be that of a photocopy of Nazi Germany that has a stingy government that treats its own citizens like garbage, and does absolutely nothing to help its citizens beyond distracting them by rounding up "undesirables" to be shipped off to concentration camps, please be my guest.

chefnaddina
chefnaddina

@shekissesfrogs @ElisabethLiora  Bible is incomplete fragmented and the christian religion is Demonic. Get real answers from the original Science of the Soul/Atma and Anti Material World the Vedas!


chefnaddina
chefnaddina

@minniemouse2014 @ElisabethLiora  No such person a man called jesus this was fabricated by Constantine of Rome! But your world have some knowledge of the true science of the Vedas I would read more for they are the original source to all the fragmented regions of the World!

chefnaddina
chefnaddina

@minniemouse2014 @ElisabethLiora  This is Christian Religion thinking it is Demonic as with all the other World Religions because they are fragmented. Only the truth can be found in Knowlege and Science of God and the Anti Material World and the Soul/Atma. Vedas

chefnaddina
chefnaddina

@Annamaria @NitaEll   Christian religion is Godless so all this hate is the reason why. Only the original source to all World religions will bring the World to Loving peace and that are the Millions of years old Vedic Knowlege of the Anti Material and Material World Science of the Soul/Atma!

chefnaddina
chefnaddina

@Normal guy @NitaEll  God is Consciousness! All World religions are fragmented broken incomplete nonsense! So you are an intelligent mind to know this! But God is Consciousness! You would do well to read the Science of the Vedas! No it is not a Hindu religion this was made up by the Missionaries who paved the way for colonization and Genocide around the World! The original Atheists were the.....


The  Mayavadis,then later Buddha one and Buddha Two yes there were two!

They were impersonal towards God Consciousness! And also took with them some of the Science of the Vedas they became flesh and Blood consumers 5K yrs ago when all technology was lost at the beginning of Kali Yuga! So because of this Natural disasters and floods people started to lose their intelligence and human lifespan began to shorten upon the Earth! 


To be impersonal a mayavada or Atheist will mean another Transmigration of the Soul! When one leave the body to go into the Anti Material World they will float outside the Heavenly plane,becoming Homogenized with all the others Souls/Atmas, lonely wanting to be the individual Soul.

They fall back down to the Earth School to learn remember who they are where they came from,the path they will find,the reason for being here,and find their way back home in the Anti Material Spiritual World. God being the supreme consciousness will then be the enjoyer of this individual Soul on the Heavenly plane of existence! 

The science of the Vedas would be something you should look into for self realization no make believe. They have Ayurvedic medicine,Vastu Architecture science,Astrology can also be used to plane the know of Atma/Soul that will come through your children. Christinas,Jewish,Islamic all have been breeding like cats and dogs so they have brought forth Demoniac Souls to the earth. Even though we are encased within the bodily dress we are all Spirit Souls we should never define ourselves with the body because it is temporary! 

chefnaddina
chefnaddina

@jess90069 @NitaEll  Sorry to burst your bubble but she is very Christian and if you think otherwise your in make believe like all of them because it is a broken fragmented incomplete religion, it is Demonic and Godless. Only the original source to all World religions will bring the World to Loving peace and that are the Millions of years old Vedic Knowlege of the Anti Material and Material World Science of the Soul/Atma!

A_Manifesto
A_Manifesto

@JohnKavanagh @A_ManifestoYou condemn without understanding. What could you possibly condemn then if not your own ignorance.

My "rant" in summary disputes any false reference to my ancient ancestors. If you do not understand something i highly recommend that you ask so i can explain and then you may, as is your right, condemn to your heart's desire. 

A_Manifesto
A_Manifesto

@StantonFink @A_ManifestoMmm.. Not a big fan of history are we? Please. Books dont end at classical times. They go all the way to 2 seconds ago. Anyone who knows anything about history knows that Hitler didnt take power by oppressing his people and forcing himself onto them. 


Also i cannot be your guest in my own country now can i and it is neither your nor merely my decision whether some people will be getting the sharp end of the stick. Greece is a republic (for now) and as such it is up to the majority to rule that. 

If the majority decides that it will prosecute people for being purple or walking backwards then this is just something the rest of the planet will just have to live with as they do not really have a say in it. 

PS: What i wrote in the message you replied has nothing to do with your actual reply. I just do not like people spewing inaccuracies. At least not about my forefathers. 


A_Manifesto
A_Manifesto

@StantonFink @A_Manifesto Alas the only people that could forgive your lack of historical acumen are all dead by now. As for myself i cannot keep a grudge for your lack of comprehension of the status quo of homosexuals in the ancient times. Judging by your comments , as aforementioned, history is not your strong suit it would seem. 

BUT

If you are a citizen of a state you are (like Socrates did ,, you should look that up its fascinating) obliged to abide by its rules. If the state said you cannot for example mate with your beloved k9 you could:

1) Leave the dog alone
2) Move to a state that allowed it 
3) Break the rules and accept the consequences. 

Therefore,, They were not treated like trash with legs. They were treated like responsible citizens. This is something i am sure you can fathom. 

StantonFink
StantonFink

@A_Manifesto Forgive me for assuming that the Ancient Greeks were not a bunch of murderous homophobic bigots who treated their citizens like human beings and not like trash with legs.  My apologies.

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